[LON-CAPA-users] The Way Sequences Work(?)

[Mills, Douglas G]

Hi Todd and all,

Yes, subsequent testing seems to confirm and after the initial shock it only makes sense that setting the time limit at the resource level is what is wanted for what we’re doing rather than setting it at the sequence (folder) level. The confusion for us I think was that setting it at the sequence level then shows it not only as the limit in effect but also at the resource level allowing us to think that they would be 30 minutes each.

For the grading, I personally have not worked much with the spreadsheets in Lon-Capa so yes, was using the phrase somewhat unspecifically.  I’m poking around in the spreadsheet now and will read through documentation to see if I can figure out how to tease the individual problem scores out of the sequence.  I’ll get back to the list with questions or further information if no one else comes up with it first :-)

Thanks,
Doug


On 9/12/11 12:56 PM, "Todd Ruskell" <todd.ruskell at gmail.com> wrote:

Doug,

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mills, Douglas G <dmills at illinois.edu> wrote:

(1) We had thought that a sequence is like a folder in terms of the course hierarchy, so setting a time limit of 30 minutes at the sequence level shows a time limit of 30 minutes at the resource level for each of the three separate problems in the sequence. That seems right. HOWEVER, once you start a problem, it turns out that all THREE problems appear to have been started and the clock is ticking on all three. That was not our intent. The intent was that the time limit for each of the three problems in the sequence would be independent of the other problems. Is this because we set the time limit at the sequence level and would that be fixed by setting the time limit at the individual resourc levels?

It's been a while since I've done any timing, but as I recall this is exactly the way it works (or used to work) when you set a time limit on a folder.  This is how you can administer, for example, a 2-hr exam.  I think you've got two options--set the parameter at the resource level, or give the sequence a 90 minute time limit.  Although the latter is not exactly what you want.

(2) We had counted on there being a separate point total for each of the three problems in the spreadsheet, but in fact it turns out that the sequence has an entry in the gradebook consisting of the total of the three quizzes, rather than each of the three quizzes being considered separately.  Any way to get the points of each of the quizzes separately rather than a lump sum for the sequence?

If you're using the actual spreadsheet, I think this should be possible without much effort.  I don't know about the other "gradebook" methods.  What, exactly, do you mean when you say, "in the spreadsheet"?


Todd


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Douglas Mills
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