[LON-CAPA-users] IMS package imports
Mills, Douglas G
lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org
Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:06:49 -0500
Thank you Stuart and Gerd,
In Respondus you can, up front, choose the QTI 1.1 "personality" and
then at the end you're exporting presumably to generic QTI 1.1- at
least I didn't see any options at that point to choose a CMS. I'm
guessing that it's when you choose Angel or whatever up front that you
get the Angel flavored QTI as an option in the end.
We thought about entering them directly in Lon Capa, but that then
raises the opposite issue-- can we get them out again? Can we export
from Lon Capa in QTI 1.1 or something? I wasn't seeing that so thought
since we're starting from zero, perhaps the more neutral our
destination, the more possibilities we have with our testbank. And
since we're having student workers enter these, they'll be doing just
what the paper tests had in them-- no advanced features necessarily
requiring Lon Capa sophistication at tha stage.
QTI 1.1 then is what we'll shoot for. Thank you!
Doug
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On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:55 PM, "Gerd Kortemeyer" <korte@lite.msu.edu>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Apparently, Respondus also exports CMS-specifically: they offer
> specific export for ANGEL, Blackboard, Desire2Learn, eCollege,
> Moodle, and WebCT. The QTI-export in turn also comes in different
> CMS-flavors (I just watched the movie).
>
> So, if you indeed want to enter the questions using Respondus, but
> want them in different CMSs, it seems like you want to keep the
> Respondus files as your "authoritative" version, and export when
> needed with a certain target in mind.
>
> Having said that, we can likely work with QTI 1.1, we would have to
> look at the actual export files.
>
> Of course, entering the questions natively in LON-CAPA will allow
> you to use some more advanced type-setting and question types, like
> reaction response and the organic molecule editor (which other CMSs
> don't have).
>
> - Gerd.
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Mills, Douglas G wrote:
>
>> Hi Gerd,
>>
>> At this point we're in the planning stages, so that's why ideally
>> I'd like
>> to identify a standard that will work with Lon Capa as well as
>> hopefully
>> other standards-compliant systems. At this point, we don't have
>> original
>> source code yet. One possibility would be to have those doing the
>> data entry
>> use Respondus set to the "QTI 1.1+" personality, so I guess I could
>> send a
>> sample of that, but I'm not sure that's the way we'd go. My thought
>> was
>> rather to set up a web database for the students entering questions
>> to use
>> and then when they submit a record (a multiple choice question),
>> wrap it in
>> XML conforming to the IMS QTI 2.0 or possibly another version of that
>> standard so that the questions are stored in the database ready to be
>> imported into Lon Capa or other compliant system. OR with
>> everything clearly
>> labeled, they'd be able to be manipulated hopefully for other uses
>> as well.
>> That's the sketchy idea at the moment. I will gladly receive
>> redirection!
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On 4/23/10 11:41 AM, "Gerd Kortemeyer" <korte@lite.msu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The reason that the IMS Import is CMS-dependent is that the
>>> standard is not
>>> really implemented well in most any CMS. What you get from each
>>> one of them is
>>> some sort of strange "dialect" with extensions, etc.
>>>
>>> The standards all sound great, but once reality kicks in ...
>>>
>>> ... what system are you porting from? Can you send me examples of
>>> original
>>> source code?
>>>
>>> - Gerd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Mills, Douglas G wrote:
>>>
>>>> HI All,
>>>>
>>>> We’re looking at creating a testbank of old exam questions and
>>>> are trying to
>>>> think through best case scenario for usability of these questions
>>>> going
>>>> forward. One strong use case would be bringing them into Lon
>>>> Capa. I see that
>>>> Lon Capa has the ability to “Import IMS package” but in the di
>>>> alogue that
>>>> opens the options given are based on CMS used to create the
>>>> package. In our
>>>> case, we’d likely be looking at generating these ourselves to
>>>> conform to one
>>>> of the IMS QTI standards (1.1 can apparently be generated by
>>>> Respondus, so
>>>> that might be a possibility; 2.0 is the current final QTI
>>>> version). Has
>>>> anyone done work along these lines or otherwise able to offer
>>>> recommendations/suggestions? It does occur to me that I could
>>>> hope that one
>>>> of the four CMS Import options offered in Lon Capa corresponds to
>>>> an IMS
>>>> standard but thought I’d ask for experiences and recommendatio
>>>> ns here. Thank
>>>> you,
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> Douglas Mills
>>>> Director of Instructional Technologies
>>>> Department of Chemistry
>>>> University of Illinois
>>>> dmills@illinois.edu
>>>> (217) 244-5739
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> Doug
>>
>> Douglas Mills
>> Director of Instructional Technologies
>> Department of Chemistry
>> University of Illinois
>> dmills@illinois.edu
>> (217) 244-5739
>>
>>
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