[LON-CAPA-users] Re: batch creation of groups and group
assignment.
Ray Batchelor
lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org
Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:44:53 -0800
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Hi Stefan,
Thanks for the suggestion.
I might have tried this if I had thought of it before the class started.
The problem is that I have already used "section" to identify the different
days of the week (and time of day) at which students attend the lab.
I now want to define smaller groups, each group including one person from
each of the sections.
I suppose that I could have initially used the file upload to make the
sections the same as the ultimate groups and then assign everyone in each
such 'section' to a corresponding group. Then I could have done a second
file upload to put the students back into their actual sections.
However, we are in the middle of the course now, and the sections are used
to assign the date parameters for the various assignments. So, I can't
monkey with them at this point.
I suppose I might try it at some wee hour of the morning, when nobody is
online.
However, I was kind of hoping someone would say, that one could upload
"group" directly.
Cheers,
Ray
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Stefan Bisitz <st.bisitz@fh-wolfenbuettel.de
> wrote:
> Hi Ray,
>
> One way would be to use sections and then assign the users from the
> sections to the groups. We used this the last semester successfully what
> I describe as follows.
>
> LON-CAPA automatically creates non existing sections when uploading a
> classlist if the section column from your file is associated with the
> LON-CAPA section field.
>
> Then (or before) you should create your groups. Don't know a batch
> creating for this.
>
> Finally, add members to the groups, select to display only one section,
> check all and add. This has to be done for all groups.
>
> Maybe this is helpful. It's still a lot of work, but it's more a "select
> all and click" job then compare two lists manually.
>
> Stefan Bisitz
>
>
> On 03.02.2009, 10:49 -0800, Ray Batchelor wrote:
> > OK.... it looks as though "Group" is not an option to select when
> > uploading a list of users.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ray Batchelor <batchelo@sfu.ca>
> > wrote:
> > Before you waste time replying.... I am already experimenting
> > with the "Upload Users List" feature.
> > I'll probably figure out what I want to do with that..... but
> > if you know of any glitches in using this for already enrolled
> > users, I'd be interested to know.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Ray Batchelor
> > <batchelo@sfu.ca> wrote:
> > I'd like to quickly create about 50 Groups in a course
> > and then upload a list of group assignments for 300
> > students.
> > Don't presently know how I might do this efficiently.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Ray
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Raymond J. Batchelor, Ph.D.
> > Department of Chemistry
> > Simon Fraser University
> > Burnaby, BC
> > Canada
> > V5A 1S8
>
>
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Raymond J. Batchelor, Ph.D.
Department of Chemistry
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, BC
Canada
V5A 1S8
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Hi Stefan,<br><br>Thanks for the suggestion.<br><br> I mi=
ght have tried this if I had thought of it before the class started.<br>The=
problem is that I have already used "section" to identify the di=
fferent days of the week (and time of day) at which students attend the lab=
.<br>
I now want to define smaller groups, each group including one person from e=
ach of the sections.<br><br>I suppose that I could have initially used the =
file upload to make the sections the same as the ultimate groups and then a=
ssign everyone in each such 'section' to a corresponding group.&nbs=
p; Then I could have done a second file upload to put the students back int=
o their actual sections.<br>
<br>However, we are in the middle of the course now, and the sections are u=
sed to assign the date parameters for the various assignments. So, I =
can't monkey with them at this point. <br>I suppose I might try i=
t at some wee hour of the morning, when nobody is online.<br>
<br>However, I was kind of hoping someone would say, that one could upload =
"group" directly.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Ray<br><br><br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Stefan Bisitz <span dir=3D=
"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:st.bisitz@fh-wolfenbuettel.de">st.bisitz@fh-wol=
fenbuettel.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Ray,<br>
<br>
One way would be to use sections and then assign the users from the<br>
sections to the groups. We used this the last semester successfully what<br=
>
I describe as follows.<br>
<br>
LON-CAPA automatically creates non existing sections when uploading a<br>
classlist if the section column from your file is associated with the<br>
LON-CAPA section field.<br>
<br>
Then (or before) you should create your groups. Don't know a batch<br>
creating for this.<br>
<br>
Finally, add members to the groups, select to display only one section,<br>
check all and add. This has to be done for all groups.<br>
<br>
Maybe this is helpful. It's still a lot of work, but it's more a &q=
uot;select<br>
all and click" job then compare two lists manually.<br>
<br>
Stefan Bisitz<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"Wj3C7c"><br>
<br>
On 03.02.2009, 10:49 -0800, Ray Batchelor wrote:<br>
> OK.... it looks as though "Group" is not an option to select=
when<br>
> uploading a list of users.<br>
><br>
> Any ideas?<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Ray Batchelor <<a href=3D"mailto:b=
atchelo@sfu.ca">batchelo@sfu.ca</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> Before you waste time replying.... I am al=
ready experimenting<br>
> with the "Upload Users List" fea=
ture.<br>
> I'll probably figure out what I want t=
o do with that..... but<br>
> if you know of any glitches in using this =
for already enrolled<br>
> users, I'd be interested to know.<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Ray<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Ray Batch=
elor<br>
> <<a href=3D"mailto:batchelo@sfu.ca">bat=
chelo@sfu.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
> I'd like t=
o quickly create about 50 Groups in a course<br>
> and then uploa=
d a list of group assignments for 300<br>
> students.<br>
> Don't pres=
ently know how I might do this efficiently.<br>
><br>
> Suggestions?<b=
r>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Ray<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Raymond J. Batchelor, Ph.D.<br>
> Department of Chemistry<br>
> Simon Fraser University<br>
> Burnaby, BC<br>
> Canada<br>
> V5A 1S8<br>
<br>
<br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Raymond J. Batchelor, P=
h.D.<br>Department of Chemistry<br>Simon Fraser University<br>Burnaby, BC<b=
r>Canada<br>V5A 1S8<br><br>
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