[LON-CAPA-users] problem status with out showing solution

Lars Jensen lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org
Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:43:39 -0700


Hi Ray and Stefan,

If I just open the set again, because the exam questions were set to 
"Exam type" the questions are multiple choice. That means that the 
students know the answer is one of the 4 remaining choices on the exam, 
and they can just try each of them. They can do this even if I change 
the exam to problem set style. So I'll have to either (i) give them only 
a single try on the wrong problems in the make-up phase, or (ii) create 
a second copy of the exam with whole new seeds for the problems.

The problem with both (i) and (ii) is that a problem that was left blank 
on the exam (no bubble) has no tries while a wrongly answered problem 
has used 1 try, so I can't just set maxtries=2 (and the due date in the 
future), I'll have to do some extra manual work. If I could set 
maxtries=0 (and the due date in the future) on the exam, I could solve 
this by creating a copy of the exam (in problem set style), set "show 
problem status" to No for the copy, and have the students submit a new 
answer.

Stefan, I agree with everything in your last email.

The easiest thing for me may be to go in and manually edit the exam to 
set all student tries on all the unanswered exam problems too 1, then 
set maxtries=1 and the duedate in the future. Then create the second 
folder for the re-make.

Lars.

Ray Batchelor wrote:
> So, you are saying that the student's will NOT be allowed to submit
> their reworked answer online?  i.e. their maxtries has already been
> reached?
> Why not just allow more tries and let them submit online?
> I seem to be missing the point here, I guess.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Stefan Bisitz
> <st.bisitz@fh-wolfenbuettel.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think, this special mode doesn't exist currently.
>>
>> Ray, as I understand, the students should not be able to submit answers.
>> That would be possible, if the due date is in future and no answer has
>> been submitted or tries are left.
>>
>> Stefan Bisitz
>>
>>
>> On 03.04.2009, 07:56 -0700, Ray Batchelor wrote:
>>> Hi Lars,
>>>               I don't understand.  That should be just like normal
>>> homework.  If you set the due date for the problems to be in the
>>> future, is that not exactly what will happen?  i.e. The ones that are
>>> previously correct will show"Correct" and those that are not will show
>>> "Incorrect" without the answer.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Lars Jensen <ljensen@tmcc.edu> wrote:
>>>> Hi again,
>>>>
>>>> I should probably explain this better:
>>>>
>>>> My students are taking a proctored  exam on lon-capa. After they have
>>>> received the exam results, I want to give them a second chance, at a reduced
>>>> credit, to complete the exam problems they got wrong. For the second go,
>>>> they are allowed to work from home. So for obvious reasons, after the first
>>>> round, I don't want lon-capa to tell them the answer to the problems they
>>>> got wrong, but I do want lon-capa to tell them which problems were right.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way to do something like this? Obviously there is some manual
>>>> work associated with the reduced credit, but I'm willing to do that. For
>>>> now, I'm stuck on showing students which problems they had wrong without
>>>> revealing the answer to them.
>>>>
>>>> Lars.
>>>>
>>>> Lars Jensen wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> If there any way, after the due date, to make lon-capa display the problem
>>>>> status of a the problems in a set without showing the correct answer to the
>>>>> problems that were answered wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Lars.
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