[LON-CAPA-users] MSU coding for Scantron exam sheets
Nathan Schoenack
lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org
Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:54:59 -0500
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I don't want to distract, but I'm also picking up the effort again to
use the randomized tests. The standard NCS form used on campus is:
http://icerp440v20.ic.ncs.com/OA_HTML/4521.pdf
And the output file looks like this:
100000003134100405001 7416 #0001 STUDENTNAME
04 421582 3345223155
Where "421582" would be the code (the form I showed only allows
numerical IDs or CODES) and "3345223155" is the answers
(A=1,B=2,C=3,D=4,E=5) to the ten questions on the test.
Can a file like this be adapted to LON-CAPA scantron grading, or am I
going to have to request a different file format?
-Nathan
On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:57 AM, H. K. Ng wrote:
> At 12:19 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
>
>> I am trying to administer exams using lon-capa. I have found the
>> document, "A Guide to Building Your Exam", to be very helpful and
>> I'm almost there. Here's my problem: In Scoring an Exam, you
>> have the option of uploading a Scantron data file. What is the
>> format for that Scantron data file? There is a wide range of
>> Scantron sheets available from Scantron (http://
>> www.scantron.com/) and thus there is a wide range of formats.)
>>
>> In the aforementioned instructions, it says, "In the format of the
>> data file section, use MSU with CODE in separate location for
>> coded exams and MSU without CODE for named exams." So my question
>> really is, "What exactly is the MSU code?"
>>
>
> The MSU code is a line in the scantronformat.tab file located in /
> home/http/lonTab that specifies the output format of the scoring
> file from the scanning office. You probably can request your
> scanning office to produce a specified output. The format of the
> line goes something like this:
>
> #name:description:code
> location:CODEstart:CODElength:IDstart:IDlength:Qstart:Qlength:Qoff:Qon
> :PaperID:PaperID
> length:FirstName:FirstNamelength:LastName:LastNamelength
>
> The fields have the following meaning: (column counts start from 1)
> name - give this line a name like gwucode
> description - this is what shows up in the drop-down menu like MSU
> Code, but call yours GWU Code
> code location - don't believe it is used in current version put -1
> CODEstart - the column location where the anonymous exam code (6
> letters) start
> CODElength - the length of the code = 6 if using the 6 letters
> IDstart - the column location where the student ID starts
> IDlength - the length of the student ID
> Qstart - the column location of the first question
> Qlength - the length of each question - normally correspond to the
> number of choices on the bubble sheet
> Qoff - symbol for each bubble that is NOT bubbled, normally a blank
> space ' '
> Qon - symbol for the bubble where the student has bubbled in - put
> say the number 1
> PaperID - the column location of the number for scanned bubble
> sheet - printed by the scanning machine.
> PaperID length - length of the paper ID
> FirstName - column location of the first name
> FirstNamelength - length of the first name
> LastName - column location of the last name
> LastNamelength - length of the last name
>
> Here are some examples:
> msunocode:MSU without any CODE:none:0:0:57:9:77:10: :1:5:5:51:1:41:10
> msucode:MSU with CODE in separate location:letter:69:6:57:9:77:10: :
> 1:5:5:51:1:41:10
> fsucode:FSU Randomized Exam Form:-1:47:6:54:9:80:10: :1:1:5:45:1:30:14
>
> The output file from the fsu scanning office looks something like
> this:
> 00001 SMITHY N IJGGBH
> 111111111 1 1 1
> 1 1
> 00002 SMITHY K FECCJA
> 032345679 1 1 1 1 1
> 00003 DOE ASHLEY EBDEBB
> 156345678 1 1 1 1 1
>
> -hk
>
>
>
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Nathan Schoenack
IT Research Support Specialist
NDSU Physics
(701) 231-7047
nathan.schoenack@ndsu.edu
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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; =
-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">I don't want to distract, but I'm also picking up the =
effort again to use the randomized tests.=A0 The standard NCS form used =
on campus is:=A0</FONT></SPAN><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><A =
href=3D"http://icerp440v20.ic.ncs.com/OA_HTML/4521.pdf">http://icerp440v20=
.ic.ncs.com/OA_HTML/4521.pdf</A></FONT><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">And the output file looks like =
this:</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">100000003134100405001=A0=A0 7416 #0001 =A0 =
=A0STUDENTNAME=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A004=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 421582=A0 =
=A0 =A0 3345223155</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT=
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">Where "421582" would be the code (the form I showed =
only allows numerical IDs or CODES) and "3345223155" is the answers =
(A=3D1,B=3D2,C=3D3,D=3D4,E=3D5) to the ten questions on the =
test.=A0=A0</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">Can a file like this be adapted to LON-CAPA scantron =
grading, or am I going to have to request a different file =
format?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">-Nathan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-style-span"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT><DIV><DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">On Oct 4, 2005, at 6:57 AM, H. K. Ng =
wrote:</FONT></DIV><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">At =
12:19 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:</FONT></DIV> <FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE =
type=3D"cite"><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">I am trying to administer exams using =
lon-capa.</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">I have found the document, =
"A Guide to Building Your Exam", to be very helpful and I'm almost =
there.</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">Here's my =
problem:</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">In Scoring an Exam, you have =
the option of uploading a Scantron data file.</FONT><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">What is the format for that Scantron data =
file?</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">There is a wide range of =
Scantron sheets</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">available from Scantron (<A =
href=3D"http://www.scantron.com">http://www.scantron.com</A>/) and thus =
there is a wide range of formats.)</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">In the aforementioned =
instructions, it says, "In the format of the data file section, use MSU =
with CODE in separate location for coded exams and MSU without CODE for =
named exams."</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">So my question really is, =
"What exactly is the MSU code?"</FONT></DIV> <FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">The MSU code is a line in =
the scantronformat.tab file located in /home/http/lonTab that specifies =
the output format of the scoring file from the scanning office. You =
probably can request your scanning office to produce a specified output. =
The format of the line goes something like this:</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">#name:description:code =
location:CODEstart:CODElength:IDstart:IDlength:Qstart:Qlength:Qoff:Qon:Pap=
erID:PaperID</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">length:FirstName:FirstNamelength:LastName:LastNamelength<=
/FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">The =
fields have the following meaning: (column counts start from =
1)</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">name - give this line a name like =
gwucode</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">description - this is what shows up in the drop-down =
menu like MSU Code, but call yours GWU Code</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">code=
location - don't believe it is used in current version put =
-1</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">CODEstart - the column location where the anonymous =
exam code (6 letters) start</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">CODElength - the length of =
the code =3D 6 if using the 6 letters</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">IDstart - the column location where the student ID =
starts</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">IDlength - the length of the student =
ID</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">Qstart - the column location of the first =
question</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">Qlength - the length of each question - normally =
correspond to the number of choices on the bubble sheet</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">Qoff=
- symbol for each bubble that is NOT bubbled, normally a blank space ' =
'</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">Qon - symbol for the bubble where the student has =
bubbled in - put say the number 1</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">PaperID - the column =
location of the number for scanned bubble sheet - printed by the =
scanning machine.</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">PaperID length - length of =
the paper ID</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">FirstName - column location =
of the first name</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">FirstNamelength - length of =
the first name</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">LastName - column location =
of the last name</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">LastNamelength - length of =
the last name</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">Here=
are some examples:</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">msunocode:MSU without any =
CODE:none:0:0:57:9:77:10: :1:5:5:51:1:41:10</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">msucode:MSU with CODE in separate =
location:letter:69:6:57:9:77:10: :1:5:5:51:1:41:10</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">fsucode:FSU Randomized Exam Form:-1:47:6:54:9:80:10: =
:1:1:5:45:1:30:14</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier"><BR></FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">The output file from the fsu =
scanning office looks something like this:</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">00001</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">SMITHY </FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT=
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">N IJGGBH =
111111111</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">1 </FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">1</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">1</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">1 =
</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">1</FONT></DIV><DIV style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">00002</FONT><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">SMITHY =
</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">K FECCJA =
032345679 </FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">1</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">1 =
</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
</FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">1 =
</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">1 </FONT><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">1</FONT></DIV><DIV =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">00003</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
face=3D"Courier">DOE</FONT><SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">=A0 </FONT></SPAN><FONT =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" face=3D"Courier">ASHLEY</FONT><SPAN =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"><FONT class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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