[LON-CAPA-users] essay/survey: giving credit for participation

[Steven Pollock]

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Thanks, Guy, for the quick response! This seem very promising. Couple 
of followups (for anyone):

1) If I have a series of questions for my survey, does each one have to 
be a separate "part"? In that case, there may be a lot of points that 
end up getting associated with the survey. Perhaps there's a simple way 
to set it up internally so, say, all parts are worth zero points except 
one final "click here to submit all and get credit" button? (I think I 
know how to do this with parameter settings, though it seems like it'll 
be pretty tedious if there are lots of parts)

Maybe related - can I turn off all the individual "Submit Answer" 
bubbles (on each part) and have one single "submit all" at the bottom 
that's worth the point?

2) <essayresponse> seems to automatically generate a little box which 
lets students choose between submitting now or storing. For my survey, 
that option isn't needed (they could always come back if they want to 
fix it up later) Any way to turn that box off (and make "submit" just 
be the default?)

3) In the FAQ-o-matic, there's a question "I just want a list of all 
the tags and functions supported by LON-CAPA" (which might conceivably 
answer the previous two question for me?!) but the links give me "Bad 
Request" errors.

4) Is there a canonical "demo" login for msu.loncapa.org, or does one 
need to get an account set up on that?



> Hi Steve,
>
>
> > I frequently post online surveys for my students, which involve a mix
> > of a few "multiple choice" (usually Likert-scale) opinion questions,
> > and some essays/long answer questions (usually metaquestions about
> > aspects of the course). Up to now I've always hand created web forms 
> to
> > do this every time - it's painful and tedious. It strikes me that
> > LON-CAPA should be great for setting up such surveys. The main 
> question
> > is this - I would like to give credit simply for participation - if
> > they hit "submit", I want to give them full credit, no matter what
> > parts they chose to fill in or not. (i.e. a single grade, 1 or 0,  
> for
> > the whole *set* of questions)
> >
> > Of course, I will *also* want to be able to save/download all their
> > individual responses to each part into a database so I can look at
> > correlations between their replies and course grades, etc.
> >
> > Is this all an easy thing to set up?
>
> Yes.
>
> The survey style is what you want, this option curently works with
>
> <essayresponse> and <radiobuttonresponse>
>
> style questions.
>
> If the student answers the question it is marked internally as
> 'correct' and if any points are associated with it they are awarded.
>
> For <radiobuttonresponse>
> the 'correct' values are ignored, all foils are always shown and they
> are unrandomized (meaning the foils are shown in the order they exist
> in the problem)
>
> You can allow students to have multiple 'tries' in which case they can
> change their mind about the answer.
>
>
> Feel free to create a survey resource in CSTR (make a resource with an
> extension of .survey) and you can see how it acts.
>
>
> In version 1.2 (just coming out now) there are two ways of getting
> data about the answers out:
>
> 1) in the STAT module you can download a summarized version of the
>    data  (I.e. 35 students picked option 1, etc.) (for essays all of
>    the submissions are shown/dowloaded)
>
>     There are no students names in this data, it is anonymous.
>
>
> 2) in STAT you can choose to download the raw internal data for
>     problems as an Excel file, this does have student identifiers
>     associated with the data.
>
>
> Feel free to login to msu.loncapa.org and try out 1.2's STAT modules.
>
> -- 
> guy@albertelli.com  LON-CAPA Developer  0-7-3-9-


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<fontfamily><param>Courier</param><x-tad-bigger>Thanks, Guy, for the
quick response! This seem very promising. Couple of followups (for
anyone): 


1) If I have a series of questions for my survey, does each one have
to be a separate "part"? In that case, there may be a lot of points
that end up getting associated with the survey. Perhaps there's a
simple way to set it up internally so, say, all parts are worth zero
points except one final "click here to submit all and get credit"
button? (I think I know how to do this with parameter settings, though
it seems like it'll be pretty tedious if there are lots of parts)


Maybe related - can I turn off all the individual "Submit Answer"
bubbles (on each part) and have one single "submit all" at the bottom
that's worth the point?


2) <<essayresponse> seems to automatically generate a little box which
lets students choose between submitting now or storing. For my survey,
that option isn't needed (they could always come back if they want to
fix it up later) Any way to turn that box off (and make "submit" just
be the default?) 


3) In the FAQ-o-matic, there's a question "I just want a list of all
the tags and functions supported by LON-CAPA" (which might conceivably
answer the previous two question for me?!) but the links give me "Bad
Request" errors. 


4) Is there a canonical "demo" login for msu.loncapa.org, or does one
need to get an account set up on that?


 

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<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Courier</param><x-tad-bigger>Hi Steve,



></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger> I frequently post online
surveys for my students, which involve a mix 

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of a few "multiple choice" (usually Likert-scale) opinion questions, 

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and some essays/long answer questions (usually metaquestions about 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
aspects of the course). Up to now I've always hand created web forms
to 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
do this every time - it's painful and tedious. It strikes me that 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
LON-CAPA should be great for setting up such surveys. The main
question 

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is this - I would like to give credit simply for participation - if 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
they hit "submit", I want to give them full credit, no matter what 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
parts they chose to fill in or not. (i.e. a single grade, 1 or 0,  for 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
the whole *set* of questions)

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger> 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
Of course, I will *also* want to be able to save/download all their 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
individual responses to each part into a database so I can look at 

</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
correlations between their replies and course grades, etc.

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</x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger><italic><x-tad-bigger>
Is this all an easy thing to set up? 

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Yes.


The survey style is what you want, this option curently works with


<<essayresponse> and <<radiobuttonresponse>


style questions.


If the student answers the question it is marked internally as

'correct' and if any points are associated with it they are awarded.


For <<radiobuttonresponse>

the 'correct' values are ignored, all foils are always shown and they

are unrandomized (meaning the foils are shown in the order they exist

in the problem)


You can allow students to have multiple 'tries' in which case they can

change their mind about the answer.



Feel free to create a survey resource in CSTR (make a resource with an

extension of .survey) and you can see how it acts.



In version 1.2 (just coming out now) there are two ways of getting

data about the answers out:


1) in the STAT module you can download a summarized version of the

   data  (I.e. 35 students picked option 1, etc.) (for essays all of

   the submissions are shown/dowloaded)


    There are no students names in this data, it is anonymous.



2) in STAT you can choose to download the raw internal data for

    problems as an Excel file, this does have student identifiers

    associated with the data.



Feel free to login to msu.loncapa.org and try out 1.2's STAT modules.


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