[LON-CAPA-admin] Assignments appear differently on different dates/access nodes

Abdel Messeh, Maged mmesseh at illinois.edu
Thu Feb 5 13:29:34 EST 2015


Thank you HK.  However, digging into the student activity showed that it was the same student …

I think we might have some messed up configuration somewhere, which we are trying to diagnose right now.

Maged


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Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-admin] Assignments appear differently on different dates/access nodes

Just chiming in with my experience. A while back I had something like this happened. The students were doing their problems in a computer room. One student did some problems but did not logged out or close the browser. The next student used the same computer and logged in to loncapa but was actually presented with the version for the first student. Apparently, the cookie lonID for the first student was not overwritten by the new login. Only by looking at the name on the loncapa page did I determine who the page belongs to.

-hk


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Stuart Raeburn <raeburn at msu.edu<mailto:raeburn at msu.edu>> wrote:
Hi,

> Do we need to increase how verbose the logs are, or do you have any
> other suggestion on what to do?

What was the question type parameter set to for Student 1, 2 and 3 for
the first question in the corresponding Pre-lab folders?  Were the
assignments republished in the time between each student's first
access and last access?  What do the submissions record for these
students show for the award made for each problem part in question 1
for the initial attempt?

> Unfortunately , those logs are only kept for 2 days.  Also the
> communication logs with library1 do not show any details, so I
> cannot tell if what the students did on access nodes was
> successfully applied to library1.

My recommendation would be to retrieve each student's activity log in
the course, and to view the transactions recorded for this particular
assignment in the appropriate time window. If there were "critical"
transactions (e.g., storage of submission data) completed on an access
server which could not be sent to the library server, those will be
recorded in /home/httpd/perl/logs/lonnet.perm.log on the access server.

> I have checked the logs and I could see when certain student worked
> on what using the temporary logs on uiucaccess2, uiucaccess3 ..etc.
>  Unfortunately , those logs are only kept for 2 days.

By logs, do you mean the web server's access logs?


Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium


Quoting "Abdel Messeh, Maged" <mmesseh at illinois.edu<mailto:mmesseh at illinois.edu>>:

> Hi All,
>
> We are having a strange problem for 3 students taking the same
> course on LonCapa.
>
> This happened on 3 different assignments at different days/times.
> All assignments are set up as new, nothing is hidden, and no
> questions are repeated (and not in practice mode).
>
> Here is a summary of what happened:
>
> Student1:
> Assignment folder "Pre-lab 6 " which was open from 1/25 6:00 PM and
> due 1/29 8:00 AM.
> Student did it on Monday 1/26, answering the first question at
> 8:32:47 PM on uiucaccess5 and continued the assignment.
> Then on Tuesday 1/27, student goes back to that first question, at
> 11:14:52 AM on uiucaccess3 and it was a different version that time.
>
> Student2:
> Assignment folder "Pre-lab 7 "  open 1/27 8:00 AM until 2/3 8 AM.
> Student did it on Monday 1/26, answering the first question at
> 6:41:22 PM on uiucaccess5.
> Then on Monday 2/2, student goes back to that first question on
> uiucaccess3 and it was a different version that time.
>
> Student3:
> Folder "Pre-lab 8" open 1/28 8:00 AM until 2/4 8 AM.
> Student did it on Friday 1/30, answering the first question at
> 7:02:42 PM on uiucaccess5.
> Then on Monday 2/2, student goes back to that first question, at
> 8:17:23 AM on uiucaccess2 and it was a different version that time.
>
> These 3 students are in different sections.
>
> I have checked the logs and I could see when certain student worked
> on what using the temporary logs on uiucaccess2, uiucaccess3 ..etc.
>  Unfortunately , those logs are only kept for 2 days.  Also the
> communication logs with library1 do not show any details, so I
> cannot tell if what the students did on access nodes was
> successfully applied to library1.
>
> Do we need to increase how verbose the logs are, or do you have any
> other suggestion on what to do?
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Maged
>
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