[LON-CAPA-users] Proctoring for Online
Huckleberry, David W
dhuckleb at purdue.edu
Tue Mar 17 13:05:22 EDT 2020
Mark,
I use Proctortrack for our online PHYS 172 course. It does use a single slot, and that is given to Proctortrack via the Blackboard Exam.
Student logs into Blackboard
Clicks on the Proctortrack link
After verifying identity, they click the Exam link and that redirects to LON-CAPA
They were told the proctorusername, but then paste the password from Proctortrack (never seeing it)
Then they take exam in LC as usual.
Works very well. No human proctor, all video based, so no scheduling needed for students.
Dave
David W. Huckleberry, MS Ed.
Coordinator of Digital Instruction
College of Science - Physics & Astronomy
PHYS 176
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1. Proctoring for Online (Lucas, Mark)
2. Re: Conditional Blocks (Raeburn, Stuart)
3. Re: Conditional Blocks (Harding, Gene L)
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:34:10 -0400
From: "Lucas, Mark" <lucasm at ohio.edu>
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Does someone have a short description of the online proctoring process handy?
As Gerd mentioned, Examity has been used by MSU and knows how to do things, but I?m about ready to send information to OIT, and using a system besides ProctorTrack via Blackboard will probably be dissuaded.
What physically does the proctor do to interact with a student taking an exam?
Does this require the use of slots?
Mark
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 16:53:29 +0000
From: "Raeburn, Stuart" <raeburn at msu.edu>
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Gene,
>
> When I turn on lenient grading, it does not allow multiple attempts,
> even if tries < maxtries. Is that normal?
>
Yes.
Besides enabling lenient grading you need to set the: "Partially correct is answerable" (retrypartial) parameter to "yes"
Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks
Thanks Doug! The syntax you sent, combined with code I wrote for a different problem, allowed me to get something workable, although I still have two issues to sort out:
1. How do I get the score for a problem part? I assume it?s &stored_data(?partscore?,?partid?); where partscore is the name of a variable holding the score for partid, but I do not know the variable name.
2. When I turn on lenient grading, it does not allow multiple attempts, even if tries < maxtries. Is that normal?
By the way, is there documentation somewhere with a list of parameters, like maxtries, and data variables, like tries? I think I could figure my way through this without bugging the listserv if I had such a document?
Best regards,
Gene L. Harding, PE
Associate Professor of ECET
Purdue University
574-520-4190
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Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks
Hi Gene,
The code I pulled from a quiz I coded and may perhaps give you the right idea:
<block condition="($current==2) || ($answer_available)">
In your case you will probably want to make the condition either than question 1 has been answered correctly or that all the tried have been used. I can track specifics down for that if needed but perhaps the example is enough to get you on the right track?
Doug
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On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Harding, Gene L <glhardin at purdue.edu<mailto:glhardin at purdue.edu>> wrote:
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Hi,
I am working on a problem for an upcoming exam. In the past I have just done it via paper exam, which was fine until now. (I did plan to do it in LON-CAPA someday, but thanks to Corona, someday is now here.)
The problem starts with an optionresponse. After the student answers it, I want to show a radiobuttonresponse problem, then show a figure and a matrix equation containing 15 parts. In the past I have used the ?display-one-part-at-a-time? feature, but the catch is that the matrix equation has 15 parts in it, and I need to show the figure and all 15 parts of the matrix equation at the same time, right after the radio button problem.
I suspect I can do it with a <block></block> tag, but am having trouble finding examples of conditional expressions and variables that I can use inside the <block> code. Does anyone know of a good resource for that info, or know the parameters and syntax I need to use? I have explored the authoring guide and LON-CAPA online help, done web searches, and looked through YouTube, all to no avail?
Best regards,
Gene L. Harding, PE
Associate Professor of ECET
Purdue University
574-520-4190
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/__;!!HXCxUKc!ggjQy2wnvdetDlYjob_8OAx4Idi05kA9C8pA6TaSvfll46OrYocqZ9F61V5Qvw$>
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Hi Doug, Stuart,
Thanks! That was the missing piece I needed. I thought I found what I needed in &check_status(?partid?) on page 29 of the Author Manual, but it does not work well when using both lenient grading and retrypartial. (I did eventually figure out that I needed to add retrypartial.) In that case check_status returns 1 even if the answer is only partially correct. Because of that, I was not able to craft a conditional expression to do what I needed.
The data value ?awarded?, however, is a floating point value between 0 and 1 indicating how much credit was awarded. It works even when using both lenient and retrypartial.
Thank you both for your help. All I need to do now is add a few more comments and it will be done.
Best regards,
Gene L. Harding, PE
Associate Professor of ECET
Purdue University
574-520-4190
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/
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Hi Gene,
Check this out!
https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/albertel/test/ext_examples.problem#0
Doug
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On Mar 17, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Harding, Gene L <glhardin at purdue.edu<mailto:glhardin at purdue.edu>> wrote:
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Thanks Doug! The syntax you sent, combined with code I wrote for a different problem, allowed me to get something workable, although I still have two issues to sort out:
1. How do I get the score for a problem part? I assume it?s &stored_data(?partscore?,?partid?); where partscore is the name of a variable holding the score for partid, but I do not know the variable name.
2. When I turn on lenient grading, it does not allow multiple attempts, even if tries < maxtries. Is that normal?
By the way, is there documentation somewhere with a list of parameters, like maxtries, and data variables, like tries? I think I could figure my way through this without bugging the listserv if I had such a document?
Best regards,
Gene L. Harding, PE
Associate Professor of ECET
Purdue University
574-520-4190
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/
From: LON-CAPA-users <lon-capa-users-bounces at mail.lon-capa.org<mailto:lon-capa-users-bounces at mail.lon-capa.org>> On Behalf Of Mills, Douglas G
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Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Conditional Blocks
Hi Gene,
The code I pulled from a quiz I coded and may perhaps give you the right idea:
<block condition="($current==2) || ($answer_available)">
In your case you will probably want to make the condition either than question 1 has been answered correctly or that all the tried have been used. I can track specifics down for that if needed but perhaps the example is enough to get you on the right track?
Doug
-sent from mobile-
On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Harding, Gene L <glhardin at purdue.edu<mailto:glhardin at purdue.edu>> wrote:
?
Hi,
I am working on a problem for an upcoming exam. In the past I have just done it via paper exam, which was fine until now. (I did plan to do it in LON-CAPA someday, but thanks to Corona, someday is now here.)
The problem starts with an optionresponse. After the student answers it, I want to show a radiobuttonresponse problem, then show a figure and a matrix equation containing 15 parts. In the past I have used the ?display-one-part-at-a-time? feature, but the catch is that the matrix equation has 15 parts in it, and I need to show the figure and all 15 parts of the matrix equation at the same time, right after the radio button problem.
I suspect I can do it with a <block></block> tag, but am having trouble finding examples of conditional expressions and variables that I can use inside the <block> code. Does anyone know of a good resource for that info, or know the parameters and syntax I need to use? I have explored the authoring guide and LON-CAPA online help, done web searches, and looked through YouTube, all to no avail?
Best regards,
Gene L. Harding, PE
Associate Professor of ECET
Purdue University
574-520-4190
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/south-bend/
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