[LON-CAPA-users] Section specific parameter settings when cloning

[Stuart Raeburn]

Lars,

> This is strange. I'm using the 2.1 RC2 version of Lon-capa. I just
> cloned a course from one a year old one, and during the cloning I
> entered a student into an existing section (in the original course)
> anticipating that the section would be re-created in the cloned course
> and the student put in it. Neither the section, not the student turned
> up to be in the cloned version of the course.

Rosters (and user roles) in the old course are *not* cloned from an  
old course to a new one, and never have been. As Ray stated,  
section-specific parameters are cloned.

However, LON-CAPA will not actually report the existence of a section  
in the new course (e.g., in the user management interface) until there  
are user roles (expired, active or future) in the section, and since  
user roles are not cloned, no sections will be listed the course (at  
least via User Management, Chart etc.) until you have added roles in  
the sections in the new course, once the course creation process is  
complete, and you have entered the *new* course as a Course  
Coordinator, and used "Manage Course Users" to add users.

The "Course/Community Request" interface added in 2.9 can be used to  
include users (and section assignments) in a course request.  However,  
that is better suited for the addition of a small number of course  
personnel (TAs, instructors, Course Coordinators etc.) as part of the  
course creation process.   Course Requests may or may not include  
cloning.  Even if cloning is included in the course request there is  
no cloning of users from the old (cloned) course to the new.

Stuart Raeburn
MSU LON-CAPA group


Quoting Lars Jensen <ljensen@tmcc.edu>:

> Hi Ray,
>
> This is strange. I'm using the 2.1 RC2 version of Lon-capa. I just
> cloned a course from one a year old one, and during the cloning I
> entered a student into an existing section (in the original course)
> anticipating that the section would be re-created in the cloned course
> and the student put in it. Neither the section, not the student turned
> up to be in the cloned version of the course.
>
> Are you saying that if I had waited putting in the student until
> later, then the section would have been created?
>
> Lars.
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ray Batchelor <batchelo@sfu.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Lars,
>> In my experience they ARE cloned.  But if you don't have any student
>> enrolled in a particular section (as designated in loncapa) then it
>> will not be offered in the parameters interface dropboxes.
>>
>> After cloning a couse, I always enroll students before I try to set  
>>  parameters.
>> You can, of course, enroll them so that they don't get access until
>> sometime in the future, if you want.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Lars Jensen <ljensen@mail.tmcc.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi Stuart,
>>>
>>> Are sections and section specific parameters cloned when cloning a
>>> course? This doesn't seem to be the case.
>>>
>>> Another related issue: It seems that if I add a student to a section
>>> when first cloning the course - the student is not added to the course
>>> at all.
>>>
>>> Lars.
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>>
>>
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