[LON-CAPA-users] Hidden Resources

Mark Lucas lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org
Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:00:34 -0400


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Ray,

There are two other options I've just given my instructors:

* Stick the unwanted problems into a folder of their own (Unused =
problems)
   This unfortunately loses the placement information

* adjust in the end for the number of points from hidden problems when =
calculating
  final scores

Later,
Mark
On Apr 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Ray Batchelor wrote:

> Yep.  If one is in the habit of hiding problems but not removing them
> (which is often convenient) then one had better either remove them or
> weight them "zero" before downloading marks.  I tend to zero-weight
> them, because the next time I clone a course I might want to include
> them again.
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> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Gerd Kortemeyer <korte@lite.msu.edu> =
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>> Hi,
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>> I believe hidden problems show up in chart. That's because some =
instructors keep their exams hidden at all times.
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>> - Gerd.
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>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Mark Lucas wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> When a problem is hidden in an assignment, the problem is not =
visible to the student
>>> and any inquiries as to score do not include the problem.
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>>> Is a hidden problem tallied under the charts for the course =
coordinator?  Is it supposed to be?
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>>> We use the chart for the final download of scores. Will the hidden =
problems show up in the
>>> point total?
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>>> (Full disclosure - the problems seem to still show up in Charts =
under CC. I was caught off guard
>>> by this, though in retrospect I never really kept hidden problems =
around. We have others that
>>> keep the hidden problems around, oftentimes at my suggestion.)
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>>> Mark
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>>> --
>>> Mark Lucas                                                           =
 email: lucasm@ohiou.edu
>>> 252D Clippinger Lab                                           phone: =
(740)597-2984
>>> Department of Physics and Astronomy           fax: (740)593-0433
>>> Ohio University
>>> Athens, OH 45701
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> Raymond J. Batchelor, Ph.D.
> Department of Chemistry
> Simon Fraser University
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Department of Physics and Astronomy		fax: (740)593-0433
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"><div>Ray,</div><div><br></div>There are two other options I've just =
given my instructors:<div><br></div><div>* Stick the unwanted problems =
into a folder of their own (Unused problems)</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp; This =
unfortunately loses the placement information</div><div><br></div><div>* =
adjust in the end for the number of points from hidden problems when =
calculating</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;final =
scores</div><div><br></div><div>Later,</div><div>Mark</div><div><div><div>=
On Apr 23, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Ray Batchelor wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Yep. =
&nbsp;If one is in the habit of hiding problems but not removing =
them<br>(which is often convenient) then one had better either remove =
them or<br>weight them "zero" before downloading marks. &nbsp;I tend to =
zero-weight<br>them, because the next time I clone a course I might want =
to include<br>them again.<br><br>Ray<br><br><br><br><br>On Fri, Apr 23, =
2010 at 5:11 AM, Gerd Kortemeyer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:korte@lite.msu.edu">korte@lite.msu.edu</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi,<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">I believe =
hidden problems show up in chart. That's because some instructors keep =
their exams hidden at all times.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">- =
Gerd.<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 20, =
2010, at 4:18 PM, Mark Lucas wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Hi,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">When a problem is hidden in an =
assignment, the problem is not visible to the =
student<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite">and any inquiries as to score do not include the =
problem.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Is a hidden problem tallied =
under the charts for the course coordinator? &nbsp;Is it supposed to =
be?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">We use the chart for the final =
download of scores. Will the hidden problems show up in =
the<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">point total?<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">(Full disclosure - the problems =
seem to still show up in Charts under CC. I was caught off =
guard<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">by this, though in retrospect I never really kept hidden =
problems around. We have others =
that<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">keep the hidden problems around, oftentimes at my =
suggestion.)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">Mark<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Mark Lucas &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; phone: =
(740)597-2984<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Department of Physics and =
Astronomy &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fax: =
(740)593-0433<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">Ohio =
University<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
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