[LON-CAPA-users] question about part0, parts and postanswerdate tag.

[Ray Batchelor]

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Scenario:
I have a simple dropbox resource to which students submit a file
(spreadsheet in this case).
They are to receive a grade of multiple points broken down according to a
list of specs.
We would 'like' to manually grade them in loncapa according to that
breakdown.

I conceive of doing this by revising what is currently an un-parted problem
into a multipart problem, in which the first part is the dropbox
(essayresponse) to be given weight=0.  Subsequent parts will have non-zero
weights and include responses for uploading scores (a.k.a. "exam upload").

Unfortunately each of the  individual parts are displayed with a "Submit"
button. This is undesireable and confusing.
I propose to place all of the score-upload parts within
<postanswerdate></postanswerdate>, leaving only the original essayresponse
to be displayed before the answer date.  This effectively hides the marking
scheme until after the answer date, at which time they will have  no
individual submit buttons anymore and they will just see their assigned
score(s) (and some potentially irrelevant feedback, designed for normal
problems).

I'd like to try to implement this on a resource to which students have
already made their file submissions to part0 (i.e. unparted problem).

It appears, to me, as though it 'might' work to append the additional
scoring parts to this resource (as in the condensed outline below):

<problem>
<essayresponse></essayresponse>
<postanswerdate>
<part><block condition="0"><numericalresponse id='a' /></block></part>
<part><block condition="0"><numericalresponse id='b' /></block></part>
<part><block condition="0"><numericalresponse id='c' /></block></part>
<part><block condition="0"><numericalresponse id='d' /></block></part>
<part><block condition="0"><numericalresponse id='e' /></block></part>
</postanswerdate>
</problem>

Of course the gui editor complains about having a response outside of a
part, in a parted problem.

At this point I can't change my resource to put  the initial essayresponse
inside <part></part>, because students have already made submissions for
part0.

Do you think the above will break things, or possibly work, as I intend, to
display the part scores postanswerdate?

Other known solutions?


Thanks,
-- 
Ray

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Scenario:<br>I have a simple dropbox resource to which students submit a fi=
le (spreadsheet in this case).<br>They are to receive a grade of multiple p=
oints broken down according to a list of specs.<br>We would &#39;like&#39; =
to manually grade them in loncapa according to that breakdown.<br>
<br>I conceive of doing this by revising what is currently an un-parted pro=
blem into a multipart problem, in which the first part is the dropbox (essa=
yresponse) to be given weight=3D0.&nbsp; Subsequent parts will have non-zer=
o weights and include responses for uploading scores (a.k.a. &quot;exam upl=
oad&quot;).<br>
<br>Unfortunately each of the&nbsp; individual parts are displayed with a &=
quot;Submit&quot; button. This is undesireable and confusing.<br>I propose =
to place all of the score-upload parts within &lt;postanswerdate&gt;&lt;/po=
stanswerdate&gt;, leaving only the original essayresponse to be displayed b=
efore the answer date.&nbsp; This effectively hides the marking scheme unti=
l after the answer date, at which time they will have&nbsp; no individual s=
ubmit buttons anymore and they will just see their assigned score(s) (and s=
ome potentially irrelevant feedback, designed for normal problems).<br>
<br>I&#39;d like to try to implement this on a resource to which students h=
ave already made their file submissions to part0 (i.e. unparted problem).<b=
r><br>It appears, to me, as though it &#39;might&#39; work to append the ad=
ditional scoring parts to this resource (as in the condensed outline below)=
:<br>
<br>&lt;problem&gt;<br>&lt;essayresponse&gt;&lt;/essayresponse&gt;<br>&lt;p=
ostanswerdate&gt;<br>&lt;part&gt;&lt;block condition=3D&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt=
;numericalresponse id=3D&#39;a&#39; /&gt;&lt;/block&gt;&lt;/part&gt;<br>&lt=
;part&gt;&lt;block condition=3D&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;numericalresponse id=3D=
&#39;b&#39; /&gt;&lt;/block&gt;&lt;/part&gt; <br>

&lt;part&gt;&lt;block condition=3D&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;numericalresponse id=
=3D&#39;c&#39; /&gt;&lt;/block&gt;&lt;/part&gt; <br>
&lt;part&gt;&lt;block condition=3D&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;numericalresponse id=
=3D&#39;d&#39; /&gt;&lt;/block&gt;&lt;/part&gt; <br>
&lt;part&gt;&lt;block condition=3D&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;numericalresponse id=
=3D&#39;e&#39; /&gt;&lt;/block&gt;&lt;/part&gt; <br>&lt;/postanswerdate&gt;=
<br>&lt;/problem&gt;<br>
<br>Of course the gui editor complains about having a response outside of a=
 part, in a parted problem.<br><br>At this point I can&#39;t change my reso=
urce to put&nbsp; the initial essayresponse inside &lt;part&gt;&lt;/part&gt=
;, because students have already made submissions for part0.<br>
<br>Do you think the above will break things, or possibly work, as I intend=
, to display the part scores postanswerdate?<br><br>Other known solutions?<=
br><br><br clear=3D"all">Thanks,<br>-- <br>Ray<br>

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