[LON-CAPA-users] Open date versus Contentopen?

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Mon, 2 Jun 2008 20:12:10 -0400

<div>Yes, I do have a couple of "dummy" students so I can make sure what th=
ey see.<br><br>I have set both the Open Date and Content Open date for the =
future: June 6, 2008 - today is Jun 2. Due date is set for Jun 18 or so. Wh=
en I log in as the student, it shows the problems as open, the student can =
look at the problem and answer it. The due date looks correct.<br><br>Inter=
esting idea, that contentopen applies to non-problem things (like pdf files=
). However, I see this parameter on my problem, not a different file type. =
So, I still don't know what ContentOpen means.<br><br>Maybe my use of pages=
 (rather than sequences) does something odd? I have a folder containing a b=
unch of "pages" rather than sequences (the icon is a puzzle piece). Each pa=
ge contains two problems (question mark icons). I view the problem, and sel=
ect PPRM (set parameters for this resource) which shows the colored grid of=
 parameters and their settings.<br>Folder:&nbsp; Final Review<br>&nbsp;&nbs=
p; Page: Final Page 1<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Problem:&nbsp; Fina=
lProblem<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Problem:&nbsp; DummyProblem<br><=
br>&nbsp; Page: Final Page 2<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Problem:&nbs=
p; FinalProblem&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;--- Setting PPRM at this point<br>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Problem:&nbsp; DummyProblem<br><br>Using Parame=
ter Helper Mode, I set Due date to 6/18 and Open date to 6/6 at the Final R=
eview folder level. I set some earlier page individual Due Dates using Para=
meter Overview mode (on Final Page 2, for example). Lastly, as part of play=
ing around I set Content Due Date at the Final Review folder level using th=
e PPRM screen.<br><br>Looking at the PPRM screen for a FinalProblem, I see =
Content Open date and Content Due date. The Content Due Date Current Sessio=
n Value is blank; it does not show the effect of the Due date which I set a=
t the Final Review folder level, and the Content Open date shows the value =
I set at the Enclosing Map Folder level ("Final Review"). <br><br>In the PP=
RM screen there is no other indication of Open Date or Due Date. So, it app=
ears that I can only set Open/Due dates from the Menu/Parameter Settings to=
ols, not from PPRM. On the other hand, the Open date does not seem to be ta=
king effect for some reason.<br><br>And as I indicated, the student sees no=
 indication of an open date, and can open and answer the problem today. I g=
uess I don't really care about the ContentOpen and Due date (other than won=
dering what the heck they are); what I really need is to know why the Open =
date isn't having an effect.<br><br>Thanks,<br>brew<br></div><font color=3D=
"#990099">lon-capa-users-admin@mail.lon-capa.org wrote: -----<br><br></font=
><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0=
px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">To: lon-capa-u=
sers@mail.lon-capa.org<br>From: "Justin Gray" &lt;jgray@math.sfu.ca&gt;<br>=
Sent by: lon-capa-users-admin@mail.lon-capa.org<br>Date: 06/02/2008 03:46PM=
<br>Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Open date versus Contentopen?<br><br>Hi B=
rew,<br><br>I believe you can set the individual due dates from a single sc=
reen at Parameter Manager -&gt; Overview Mode<br>(Select Parameter Level at=
 Resource Level and select the enclosing folder that you want. Then select =
only Problem Due Date from the table of parameters.)<br><br>If students can=
 see the due dates, I believe the problems should be open. If your folder c=
ontains only problems, what you want to set is Problem Opening Date. Conten=
t Opening Date does not seem to apply to problems. <br><br>It is a good ide=
a to assign yourself a dummy student role in your course, so that you can s=
ee what your students see. It is better to do this using a different accoun=
t since you will sometimes have additional privileges that other students d=
o not when you are logged in as yourself. You can do this as follows:<br><b=
r>1) Go to Manage Course Users -&gt; Enroll a single student <br>2) Add a d=
ummy username <br>3) Select Internally authenticated and add a dummy passwo=
rd<br><br>Note that any parameters set at the section level will not apply =
to this dummy student if no section is assigned.<br><br>Justin<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail=5Fquote">On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM,  &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=5Fquote" style=3D"border-left: =
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;=
"><font size=3D"2">I am trying to set some dates on a series of problems, a=
nd have a couple of questions.<br><br>1) I have 50 questions in a folder. I=
 set the due date for the entire folder to Jun13. Now, I want to set the du=
e dates for problems 1-5 to be Jun10, 6-12 to Jun11, 13-25 to Jun 12.<br><b=
r>Is there a way to set these through a single screen? I am setting each pr=
oblem individually, which is a lot of slow screens. Just a convenience issu=
e...<br><br>2) I am not seeing the Opendate. I set the Open date for a fold=
er, then a bunch of due dates for the problems. The student sees the due da=
tes, but the Open date doesn't seem to apply (for my Chemistry course). Wha=
t else do I set to make the open date work?<br><br>I also tried setting som=
ething called contentopen from the pprm screen, for the enclosing folder. W=
hat is this supposed to be? It also does not seem to affect the student's v=
iew of the problem opening.<br><br>I note that the opendate does not appear=
 in the PPRM parameter screen? I guess I'm just note sure what I am seeing.=
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