[LON-CAPA-admin] studentID changes

[Todd Ruskell]

On Thursday 17 November 2005 12:42 pm, Nathan Schoenack wrote:
> 1. I was concerned with messing with data in an actual class for
> students that are currently enrolled.  If this is a safe option I
> will do it.

Others can chime in here, but I don't know of anything bad that would happen.  
As far as I know, ID numbers are just a piece of data in LON-CAPA.  The 
username is the unique identifier.  Given that you can "drop" a student, and 
then re-enroll them and get their data back, it shouldn't be an issue.

> I am confused, though, as to how the students' ID is different
> depending on which class I'm checking.  Wouldn't the studentID be
> tied to the username, regardless of which class he/she is enrolled in?

The answer to this appears to be "sort of"  As far as I can tell, the ID can 
only be entered/changed by a CC, which means it is tied to the specific 
course.  On the other hand, there is a mechanism that checks to see if the 
username already exists, and if so, it compares checks the ID you entered 
against the other IDs entered for that student.

> 2. We did a randomized test in class and needed to use the new IDs to
> identify the students.  I will not be doing this for every class
> we're running.  I'll just let the next semester's uploads take care
> of it.

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten about the original problem.

Todd
> -Nathan
>
> On Nov 17, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Todd Ruskell wrote:
> > Try doing it as CC instead.
> >
> > Two other thoughts:
> > (1) Rather than doing it by hand, why not just re-upload the class
> > list with
> > the new IDs, but into the actual running class.  Just make sure to
> > disable
> > the ID check.
> > (2) Why get carried away with changing the ID# in the running
> > course in the
> > first place?  The University appears to have provided you with some
> > kind of
> > mapping.  If you need the new IDs to do upload grades or something
> > at the end
> > of the semester, get the spreadsheet or CSV file output from LON-
> > CAPA at that
> > time, and do the mapping on the output at the end of the semester.
> > Just make
> > sure that for any new classes you use the new IDs.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Thursday 17 November 2005 11:19 am, Nathan Schoenack wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I e-mailed about this a while back and I thought everything worked
> >> OK, but I was mistaken.
> >>
> >> I need to change everyone's studentID to our new PeopleSoft ID
> >> regime.  I uploaded every student in the class into a temporary,
> >> dummy course so I could use the "overwrite student IDs" checkbox.  It
> >> worked in changing the studentID in that course, but when I go to the
> >> actual, functioning course, the IDs are all still their old IDs.
> >>
> >> Then I thought, I'd just bite the bullet and manually change their
> >> IDs myself as Domain Coordinator, but if I go to CUSR and enter the
> >> student's username, there is no StudentID blank to change.
> >>
> >> Is there some other way I can change student IDs?
> >>
> >> Nathan Schoenack
> >> IT Research Support Specialist
> >> NDSU Physics
> >> (701) 231-7047
> >> nathan.schoenack at ndsu.edu
> >>
> >>
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> Nathan Schoenack
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> NDSU Physics
> (701) 231-7047
> nathan.schoenack at ndsu.edu
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Dr. Todd Ruskell
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Colorado School of Mines                     Phone: 303-384-2080
1523 Illinois Street                         Fax: 303-273-3919
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