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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">Looking back through older emails I came across the unanswered question below. I thought perhaps sharing an example of this might help. Here is one of these problems published for public access (no authentication
required but of course automatically in practice mode):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt"><a href="http://lon-capa.illinois.edu/res/uiuc/dmills/andino/CurvedArrows/CAAD2-2.problem">http://lon-capa.illinois.edu/res/uiuc/dmills/andino/CurvedArrows/CAAD2-2.problem</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">(works most nicely in Chrome but will work in other browsers as well).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">If you give it a go, you'll see that when you've made a submission it adds an attempt link so that you can go back and look at your previous submissions in a meaningful way (previous tries shows information
used for the display, not really anything meaningful to a student). Because the instructor I am working with on this envisioned giving students only 12 tries on this type of problem, currently it will only display 12 tries (the public version linked above
of course has unlimited tries since it is in practice mode, but providing the links to previous tries will fail after 12 tries).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">What I've discovered is that IF the instructor for some reason needs to reset the problem for a student, it starts over again as it should BUT after they've made a first try, if they click on the "attempt
1" link, it will display not their first try after the reset, but their very first try from before the problem was reset. My question then is, is there some way to identify if there has been a reset that I could make use of to start again with the tries after
the reset? It's not a huge deal -- resetting won't occur often, but it's an annoyance and I do have other problem types that provide links to view previous attempts as well where I'm sure this is a potential problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">Thanks as always for any hints clues or advice that can be provided!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Douglas Mills<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Director of Instructional Technology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Department of Chemistry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">University of Illinois<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="color:black">"Mills, Douglas G" <dmills@illinois.edu><br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 3:52 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Mills, Douglas G" <dmills@illinois.edu><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Differentiate between tries when a problem is reset?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">HI All,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:13.0pt">I've created a problem where viewing previous tries the normal way is not very meaningful to the students and so am referencing their attempts and giving them a series of links they
can click on to display a visualization of their previous attempts. This all works fine. However, in the case where for whatever reason the instructor RESETS the student's access to the problem so that they can start over, Lon-Capa maintains the record of
their attempts from before the reset and continues to reference those. I'm wondering, therefore, if there is some way in the event of an access reset to differentiate between the new attempts vs. the old (pre-reset) attempts. user.resource.resource.<partid>.tries
resets so that the number of tries is again 0, 1, 2, etc. but user.resource.1:resource.<partid>.<responseid>.submission continues to keep track of ALL submissions. I'm sure I'm missing something simple. Thanks for your help!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Doug</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Douglas Mills</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Director of Instructional Technology</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="color:black">Department of Chemistry</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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