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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Would it be acceptable to use the chemical equation response? The reaction editor could preloaded with the unbalanced equation. Students would be instructed to 1) delete any species not needed
in the balanced equation, and 2) add coefficients where needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> lon-capa-users-bounces@mail.lon-capa.org [mailto:lon-capa-users-bounces@mail.lon-capa.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Raymond Batchelor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [LON-CAPA-users] Making something out of nothing with preprocessing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">"Douglas G Mills" <<a href="mailto:dmills@illinois.edu">dmills@illinois.edu</a>><br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org">lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"Douglas G Mills" <<a href="mailto:dmills@illinois.edu">dmills@illinois.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, 9 November, 2016 11:45:55<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[LON-CAPA-users] Making something out of nothing with preprocessing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Hi Doug,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"> Similarly the coefficent could be "0" (H2O, H+, or OH- for example -- when you want them to decide on which side the equation those would or would not appear).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Several years back, I made resources where students were still required to enter "0" or "1" coeffs, when appropriate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">However, I put in conditions that hide the affected parts of the equation so that, once they have answered the question correctly, some species no longer appear and coeffients
of "1" have been removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Not quite a solution but, this has worked fine for several years. There remains the issue that, once they have it correct, grader can no longer locate or view the suppressed species
nor the "0" and "1" coefficients as entered by the student.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Hi All,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">There are times, such as filling in coefficients to balance a chemical equation, when the best answer would be no answer at all. Requiring students to put 1 as the coefficient of O2 in the reaction
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">"2H2 + O2 -> 2H2O"</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">when they are presented with [numericalresponse]H2 + [numericalresponse]O2 -> [numericalresponse]H2O because if they don't Lon-Capa will not process the answer because "not all answers were submitted"
is an artificial concession to the LMS that I'd like to avoid. I had thought maybe with preprocessing I could instruct students to leave a text field blank -- as such an equation would normally be written -- when the coefficient is 1 and then preprocess and
insert a 1 for the case where the textfield is empty so that Lon-Capa is getting an answer without the artificial exercise of the student putting in a coefficient of 1, but that does not seem to be working. Should that be possible and I'm just going about
it the wrong way? Any other ideas on how to address this besides instructing students to give 1 as the answer?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Thanks!</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">Raymond J. Batchelor, PhD.<br>
Department of Chemistry<br>
Simon Fraser University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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