[LON-CAPA-users] dataresponse

[Raeburn, Stuart]

Hello Doug,

>
> I'm still wondering about the dataresponse functionality in Lon-Capa (see below). Thanks!
>

The LON-CAPA mailing list archives are searchable using swish (which is linked to on the loncapa.org documentation page; see: loncapa.org/documentation.html ).

This query:
http://mail.lon-capa.org/mailman/swish.cgi?query=dataresponse

currently returns: mail.lon-capa.org/pipermail/lon-capa-users/2008-April/003103.html
as the top-ranked result.

In that post, from 2008, the creator of the dataresponse tag included the following statement:

"<dataresponse> is not really functional. I'd avoid it. It was meant to
be used for a pure collection of data that wasn't to be graded. Never
really got completed."

Anyway, in your 11/15 post you wrote ...

>
> However, whatever is entered into the textfield disappears when the part is submitted.
>

Looking at the LON-CAPA source (response.pm), I see that submissions from a dataresponse item are only stored if the user has the privilege to manage grades.

If you add a published problem containing a dataresponse item to a course, it is possible to use Content Grades > Upload Scores to upload a CSV file containing usernames and values to assign to that user, which will be stored with a key of: resource.<partid>.<responseid>.<name>.

That value could then be retrieved via a call to &EXT("user.resource.resource.<partid>.<responseid>.<name>") in a perl script block,  where <name> is the value set for the name attribute in the dataresponse tag, e.g.,

<problem>
<script type="loncapa/perl">
$val = &EXT('user.resource.resource.0.11.mills');
if ($val eq '') {
    $val = ' ';
}
</script>
<dataresponse name="mills" id="11" type="int" display="showme">
</dataresponse>
    <startouttext />
Your value is $val
    <endouttext />
</problem>

So, I suppose, the current dataresponse item could be used to populate a problem with static data specified by the instructor.  The "Submit Answer" button (and Tries etc.) would still be shown, for the dataresponse item, so you'd likely want to suppress that using javascript to interact with the DOM.

From the LON-CAPA codebase commit history, I see the initial implementation of the dataresponse tag was in August 2001 (response.pm rev. 1.44) , and initial documentation (homework5.html rev. 1.10) was added in October 2001.  That same documentation was transferred to the file which generates the help document: /adm/help/Authoring_DataResponse.hlp in 2003, which was incorporated into the Authoring Manual for LON-CAPA 1.0 (August 2003).

Given, the incomplete state of dataresponse, that documentation should either be updated, or excluded from future LON-CAPA releases.

Happy Holidays,

Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] dataresponse

Hi All,

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Holidays!

I'm still wondering about the dataresponse functionality in Lon-Capa (see below). Thanks!

Doug

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Director of Instructional Technology

Department of Chemistry

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From: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmills at illinois.edu>
Date: Friday, November 15, 2019 at 4:38 PM
To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users at mail.lon-capa.org>
Cc: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmills at illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: dataresponse

I should have added that the response for the part continues to be "some items were not submitted."  I'm sure I'm doing something dumb -- missing something somewhere. Thanks!

Doug

DOUGLAS G MILLS
Director of Instructional Technology

Department of Chemistry

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Urbana, IL 61801
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From: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmills at illinois.edu>
Date: Friday, November 15, 2019 at 4:23 PM
To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users at mail.lon-capa.org>
Cc: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmills at illinois.edu>
Subject: dataresponse

Happy Friday!

I was perusing the Author's Manual yesterday and noticed for the first time the datresponse tag (p. 95 of the current version) and it seems like it could be very helpful -- quite possibly the correct Lon-Capa way of doing a number of things I've been doing in other ways...

Anyway, I'm working on putting this tag to use and have added the following to an existing problem part:

<dataresponse name="newversion" id="newversion" type="int" display="testing"><textline/></dataresponse>

However, whatever is entered into the textfield disappears when the part is submitted. Am I doing something wrong?  Thanks!

Doug

DOUGLAS G MILLS
Director of Instructional Technology

Department of Chemistry

University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Chemistry Annex Box A2
601 S. Mathews | M/C 712
Urbana, IL 61801
217.244.5739 | fax: 217.244.8029 | dmills at illinois.edu<mailto:dmills at illinois.edu>
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