[LON-CAPA-users] LON-CAPA-users Digest, Vol 81, Issue 4
Mark Wall
Mark.Wall at Dal.Ca
Fri Sep 7 10:27:41 EDT 2018
Hi,
Is it possible to hard code the time-limit parameter into a problem, similar to hard coding the max tries for a part using <parameter description="Maximum Number of Tries" type="int_pos" default="1" name="maxtries">.
Thanks,
Mark
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:27:31 +0000
From: "Huckleberry, David W" <dhuckleb at purdue.edu>
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The problem we run into with using the spreadsheet is that the grade sync to Blackboard won't take anything that is calculated in there, it only pulls the awarded total.
What if you could get the tries and awarddetails info back from the radiobuttonresponse.pm, then do something that multiples by the awarddetails based on number of tries?
I have no idea how to code that, but just thinking logically.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:23:12 +0000
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The only ways I know how to do this are via CustomResponse as it sounds like you're already doing OR using the Lon-Capa gradebook, which we have experimented with a bit but have not sustained. It's powerful but challenging to get used to I think is a fair statement. There are no doubt others on the list though who have mastered the gradebook and use it to great advantage who can hopefully contribute guidance if you'd like to explore that direction.
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] Partial Credit for multiple tries
I have a faculty member that wants to implement the following:
On a multiple choice question
Correct in 1 attempt = 100% credit
Correct in 2 attempts = 75% credit
Correct in 3 attempts = 50% credit
Incorrect = 0% credit
We do something like this in Math, but on Customresponse questions and they use customgraders as well.
Does anyone have an example of making this happen in just a simple M\C problem?
I am decent at reverse engineering, but need a lead.
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:39:46 +0000
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At one point I tried something like this within the problem itself through the wonderful features of Lon-Capa giving access to so much information, such as the number of tries, etc. but I think where I fell short was the fact(? -- please correct me if I'm wrong here!) that you can only use the ASSIGNED_SCORE option with CustomResponses. While I could inside the problem calculate the grade I wanted based on number of tries, and tried to use the weight parameter to make that the grade, it seems that my carefully calculated weight variable did not make it to wherever the grades are stored and the part ended up with the default weight rather than the value I had calculated.
Doug
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Department of Chemistry
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?On 8/9/18, 10:28 AM, "LON-CAPA-users on behalf of Huckleberry, David W" <lon-capa-users-bounces at mail.lon-capa.org on behalf of dhuckleb at purdue.edu> wrote:
The problem we run into with using the spreadsheet is that the grade sync to Blackboard won't take anything that is calculated in there, it only pulls the awarded total.
What if you could get the tries and awarddetails info back from the radiobuttonresponse.pm, then do something that multiples by the awarddetails based on number of tries?
I have no idea how to code that, but just thinking logically.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:23:12 +0000
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The only ways I know how to do this are via CustomResponse as it sounds like you're already doing OR using the Lon-Capa gradebook, which we have experimented with a bit but have not sustained. It's powerful but challenging to get used to I think is a fair statement. There are no doubt others on the list though who have mastered the gradebook and use it to great advantage who can hopefully contribute guidance if you'd like to explore that direction.
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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Date: Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 9:53 AM
To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users at mail.lon-capa.org>
Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] Partial Credit for multiple tries
I have a faculty member that wants to implement the following:
On a multiple choice question
Correct in 1 attempt = 100% credit
Correct in 2 attempts = 75% credit
Correct in 3 attempts = 50% credit
Incorrect = 0% credit
We do something like this in Math, but on Customresponse questions and they use customgraders as well.
Does anyone have an example of making this happen in just a simple M\C problem?
I am decent at reverse engineering, but need a lead.
Thanks
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David W Huckleberry
Coordinator of Digtial Instruction
Department of Physics & Astronomy
Physics 176
765-494-9575
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:25:59 +0000
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Hi All,
I am looking at the wonderful examples page for the powerful &EXT() functions in Lon-Capa (https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/albertel/test/ext_examples.problem#0) but not seeing anything that would return the name of a group that the student is a part of. I've made use of the section information before and am wondering if there is no function that returns group membership or if it just isn't listed on this page? I've tried (analogous to the section function)
$group=&EXT("user.course.grp");
and
$group=&EXT("user.course.group");
Is there something like this also in Lon-Capa or some other way to determine in the context of a problem if a student has been added to a specific group or not?
Thanks,
Doug
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Doug,
This command will return a colon-separated list of active groups to which the current user belongs.
$groups = &EXT('user.course.groups');
similar to &EXT('user.course.sec') for the current section, except unlike a section, where a user's session can only have a single section active at any time, a user can be a member of multiple groups.
Note: if you have just added yourself to a group, click "Check for Changes" in the gray Functions bar on your roles screen to update your session with information about your new group membership.
Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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Hi All,
I am looking at the wonderful examples page for the powerful &EXT() functions in Lon-Capa (https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/albertel/test/ext_examples.problem#0) but not seeing anything that would return the name of a group that the student is a part of. I've made use of the section information before and am wondering if there is no function that returns group membership or if it just isn't listed on this page? I've tried (analogous to the section function)
$group=&EXT("user.course.grp");
and
$group=&EXT("user.course.group");
Is there something like this also in Lon-Capa or some other way to determine in the context of a problem if a student has been added to a specific group or not?
Thanks,
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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