[LON-CAPA-users] generate same exams in two different sections??

Mills, Douglas G dmills at illinois.edu
Tue Sep 23 15:05:52 EDT 2014

Thank you Stuart. That tells us what we need to know!


Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technologies
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
dmills at illinois.edu
(217) 244-5739

On 9/23/14, 1:59 PM, "Stuart Raeburn" <raeburn at msu.edu> wrote:

>Hi Doug,
>LON-CAPA uses a message digest of the unique resource identifier (the
>"symb"), the internal LON-CAPA courseID, and the exam CODE to create
>the random seed.
>So if 104D section and the 104O section are different LON-CAPA courses
>(with different courseIDs), which the LON-CAPA Course Catalog for the
>uiuc domain for CHEM for Fall 2014 indicates is the case, then exams
>generated in the two courses would be expected to use different seeds
>for the same CODE.
>For future semesters you might consider aggregating the 104D and 104O
>students in a single LON-CAPA course, but affiliating the student with
>different groups (one for D, one for O), and then setting parameters
>(e.g., content access etc.) based on group affiliation etc.
>For now, you could create yet another course (with enrollment from
>both 104D and 104O courses) and generate the exam there for students
>from both the D and O sections.  That would mean students would need
>to log-in to the "exam" course to see their submission history etc.
>Alternatively, you could set student access dates in the exam course,
>such that student roles would have already expired, print and grade
>the exam in the "Exam" course and then export the grades, followed by
>uploading grades into a score upload form in the separate 104D and
>104O courses.  However, that approach would provide students with only
>the points earned in the exam, and no view of their submission
>history/correct answers for their randomization etc. for individual
>exam questions.
>Stuart Raeburn
>LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
>Quoting "Mills, Douglas G" <dmills at illinois.edu>:
>> Hi All,
>> Here's a question from an instructor I work with. I have done next
>> to nothing with exams generated in Lon-Capa and he's the resident
>> expert on it, so we need outside help with this.
>> ________________________________
>> I have the online course and the "normal course".  Ideally, I would
>> like them to all take the same exam so I only have to have claire
>> run off 1 set of copies.
>> I think this might be a problem though, as when I make the exam pdf
>> in the  everything works fine.  When I go to try to  print the same
>> code number exam in the 104O class, I get a different  copy of the
>> exam.
>> I'm guessing a different random seed was used in each section.  Is
>> there any way for me to have the 104O section use the same exam
>> versions?
>> ________________________________
>> I guess the bottom line is, is there a way to get the two courses to
>>  use the same random seed for the same exam codes?
>> Thanks!
>> Doug
>> Douglas Mills
>> Director of Instructional Technologies
>> Department of Chemistry
>> University of Illinois
>> dmills at illinois.edu<mailto:dmills at illinois.edu>
>> (217) 244-5739
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