[LON-CAPA-users] View problems after due date with no answers?

[Mills, Douglas G]

Thank you Gerd. Wish I had the skills to "go for it" but that will have to
wait for someone more talented than I. Meanwhile, Lon-Capa continues to be
without a doubt in my mind the most powerful, versatile problem-authoring
and delivery system out there. The "no, it can't do that" answers are
extremely few and far between and most of the time when I come up against
them we're already successfully pushing the limits far beyond what any other
LMS could even begin to imagine let alone do. Thank you!

Doug


On 9/20/12 8:12 AM, "Gerd Kortemeyer" <korte at lite.msu.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No, there is no setting like that. This goes back 20 years to the original
> CAPA.
> 
> There are "permutations" of these settings already in Bugzilla, see
> 
> http://bugs.lon-capa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4797
> http://bugs.lon-capa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6206
> 
> for related functionality (score/no problem, answer/no score, …).
> Interestingly, I could not find this exact enhancement request in Bugzilla.
> 
> The problem is that all of this needs to be implemented for every response
> type, and some of them still have inconsistent "show answer" implementations:
> 
> http://bugs.lon-capa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31
> 
> In short, in order to really address this, a more comprehensive solution for
> the answer target needs to be found, so that all response types use the same
> functions instead of each implementing their own. This could also address
> 
> http://bugs.lon-capa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1889
> http://bugs.lon-capa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6262
> 
> It's open source! Go for it!
> 
> - Gerd.
> 
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 8:52 AM, "Mills, Douglas G" <dmills at illinois.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Ray. But is there a way, after duedate but before answerdate to
>> let students just look at the questions and their own answers/attempts (but
>> not the correct answers to questions they didn't successfully answer) so
>> they could study from that?  Seems like the only option between due date and
>> answerdate is "Not Open To Be Viewed" which seems uncharacteristically
>> unflexible for Lon-Capa. Is that really the only option at that point?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/19/12 9:00 PM, "Raymond Batchelor" <batchelo at sfu.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Douglas,
>>            Welll.... you could try setting different date
>>> parameters for the two kinds of students.  If there is a lot of them,
>>> perhaps
>>> you could assign the newly added students to a special section and then set
>>> different date parameters for only that section?
>> 
>> I can't immediately thing of
>>> a way to hide the correct answers for an assignment which is past due AND
>>> past
>>> answerdate.
>> 
>> Ray
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Douglas G Mills"
>>> <dmills at illinois.edu>
>> To: "Discussion list for LON-CAPA users"
>>> <lon-capa-users at mail.lon-capa.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 September, 2012
>>> 12:05:45
>> Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] View problems after due date with no
>>> answers?
>> 
>> 
>> View problems after due date with no answers? HI All,
>> 
>> Another
>>> question from left field... I¹m not finding a way that students can look
>>> over
>>> their work after a due date apart from releasing the answers to them. In the
>>> testing I¹m doing, the Show Problem Status parameter does not seem to
>>> prevent
>>> the answer from being shown and I¹m guessing that¹s not what it¹s intended
>>> to
>>> do(?) Here¹s our use case‹ CHEM 101 is a remedial intro course that after
>>> the
>>> first hourly exam in CHEM 102 lots of students will drop down into. However,
>>> CHEM 101 is running right now and has its own hourly exam coming up. The
>>> instructors don¹t want to open answers to the homework because of the
>>> expected
>>> influx of students who will need to make up the homework, but for those
>>> already in the course, several homework assignments have passed their due
>>> dates, so they can no longer see what they did. Thanks as always for the
>>> excellent guidance!
>> 
>> Doug 
>> 
>> Douglas Mills 
>> Director of Instructional
>>> Technologies 
>> Department of Chemistry
>> University of Illinois
>>> 
>> dmills at illinois.edu
>> (217) 244-5739
>>> 
>> 
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>> Doug
>> 
>> Douglas Mills
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>> University of Illinois
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Doug

Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technologies
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
dmills at illinois.edu
(217) 244-5739