[LON-CAPA-users] drag math
Justin Gray
lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org
Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:04:28 -0700
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Certainly. They can be found at
/res/sfu/tgray/Just In Time Algebra and Trig for Calculus/Important Notes on
Syntax.html
Justin
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Todd Ruskell <truskell@mines.edu> wrote:
> Justin,
>
> Would you be willing to share your notes?
>
> Todd
>
> Justin Gray wrote:
> > Indeed, this seems to be a bug in DragMath.
> >
> > I have been using DragMath in several courses this semester and have not
> > encountered any other bugs so far. At least 90% of the problems that I
> > am using are formula response. I don't know exactly how many students
> > are using the equation editor, but I have noticed that there are far
> > fewer complaints from students about difficulties with entering the
> > correct syntax for their answers. (Most of these problems were used in
> > previous semesters when DragMath was not available.)
> >
> > Having said that, because of the heavy emphasis on formula response
> > problems in my courses, I have taken some additional measures to help
> > students with entering the correct syntax for their answers:
> >
> > 1. I have prepared a one page document for students with important notes
> > on syntax.
> >
> > 2. I sometimes accept alternate answers. For example, I may code ln(x +
> > y) as an alternate answer for log(x + y).
> >
> > 3. I sometimes code formula hints when students make common syntax
> > errors. For example, if a student writes x - 1/x + 2 when the correct
> > answer is (x -1)/(x + 2) they may get a hint that says "You seem to be
> > missing some parentheses in your answer, which are needed in order to
> > indicate the correct order of operations." Using the equation editor to
> > preview their answers can help students to catch these mistakes in
> advance.
> >
> > I try to avoid including information in the problem text that explains
> > the correct syntax that is needed, because it is difficult to do this
> > without giving away too much of the answer.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:56 AM, H.K. Ng <hkng@fsu.edu
> > <mailto:hkng@fsu.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am working on some formula/math response problems using the cas
> > function but had a hard time getting drag math to work properly.
> > Here are some of the issues.
> >
> > 1. On a new window, it doesn't seem to let me type in anything until
> > I click on one of the icons. This seems rather backward.
> >
> > 2. It seems to rearrange an expression in a strange way. For
> > example, if I type v^2+2g(a-b), it spits back (a-b)v^2+2.g. It does
> > the same thing if I first enter the expression in the answer box and
> > then click on the pencil icon.
> >
> > Has anyone has similar experience with drag math? Also, has anyone
> > use drag math in a course? What is the feedback from the students
> like?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -hk
> >
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> >
> >
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> > Justin Gray
> > Dept. of Mathematics
> > Simon Fraser University
> > 8888 University Drive
> > Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6
> > Canada
> > Tel. +1 778-782-4237
> > Fax. +1 778-782-4947
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Dr. Todd Ruskell
> Senior Lecturer, Department of Physics Office: Meyer Hall 326
> Colorado School of Mines Phone: 303-384-2080
> 1523 Illinois Street Fax: 303-273-3919
> Golden, CO 80401
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Justin Gray
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Simon Fraser University
8888 University Drive
Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6
Canada
Tel. +1 778-782-4237
Fax. +1 778-782-4947
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Certainly. They can be found at <br><br>/res/sfu/tgray/Just In Time Algebra and Trig for Calculus/Important Notes on Syntax.html<br><br>Justin<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Todd Ruskell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:truskell@mines.edu">truskell@mines.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Justin,<br>
<br>
Would you be willing to share your notes?<br>
<br>
Todd<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
Justin Gray wrote:<br>
> Indeed, this seems to be a bug in DragMath.<br>
><br>
> I have been using DragMath in several courses this semester and have not<br>
> encountered any other bugs so far. At least 90% of the problems that I<br>
> am using are formula response. I don't know exactly how many students<br>
> are using the equation editor, but I have noticed that there are far<br>
> fewer complaints from students about difficulties with entering the<br>
> correct syntax for their answers. (Most of these problems were used in<br>
> previous semesters when DragMath was not available.)<br>
><br>
> Having said that, because of the heavy emphasis on formula response<br>
> problems in my courses, I have taken some additional measures to help<br>
> students with entering the correct syntax for their answers:<br>
><br>
> 1. I have prepared a one page document for students with important notes<br>
> on syntax.<br>
><br>
> 2. I sometimes accept alternate answers. For example, I may code ln(x +<br>
> y) as an alternate answer for log(x + y).<br>
><br>
> 3. I sometimes code formula hints when students make common syntax<br>
> errors. For example, if a student writes x - 1/x + 2 when the correct<br>
> answer is (x -1)/(x + 2) they may get a hint that says "You seem to be<br>
> missing some parentheses in your answer, which are needed in order to<br>
> indicate the correct order of operations." Using the equation editor to<br>
> preview their answers can help students to catch these mistakes in advance.<br>
><br>
> I try to avoid including information in the problem text that explains<br>
> the correct syntax that is needed, because it is difficult to do this<br>
> without giving away too much of the answer.<br>
><br>
> Justin<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:56 AM, H.K. Ng <<a href="mailto:hkng@fsu.edu">hkng@fsu.edu</a><br>
</div></div><div class="Ih2E3d">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:hkng@fsu.edu">hkng@fsu.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I am working on some formula/math response problems using the cas<br>
> function but had a hard time getting drag math to work properly.<br>
> Here are some of the issues.<br>
><br>
> 1. On a new window, it doesn't seem to let me type in anything until<br>
> I click on one of the icons. This seems rather backward.<br>
><br>
> 2. It seems to rearrange an expression in a strange way. For<br>
> example, if I type v^2+2g(a-b), it spits back (a-b)v^2+2.g. It does<br>
> the same thing if I first enter the expression in the answer box and<br>
> then click on the pencil icon.<br>
><br>
> Has anyone has similar experience with drag math? Also, has anyone<br>
> use drag math in a course? What is the feedback from the students like?<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> -hk<br>
><br>
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
> Justin Gray<br>
> Dept. of Mathematics<br>
> Simon Fraser University<br>
> 8888 University Drive<br>
> Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6<br>
> Canada<br>
> Tel. +1 778-782-4237<br>
> Fax. +1 778-782-4947<br>
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Dr. Todd Ruskell<br>
Senior Lecturer, Department of Physics Office: Meyer Hall 326<br>
Colorado School of Mines Phone: 303-384-2080<br>
1523 Illinois Street Fax: 303-273-3919<br>
Golden, CO 80401<br>
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Simon Fraser University<br>8888 University Drive<br>Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6<br>Canada<br>Tel. +1 778-782-4237<br>Fax. +1 778-782-4947<br>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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