[LON-CAPA-admin] CentOS 9-Stream install

[Raeburn, Stuart]

Donald,

Past practice has been to add Linux distros to the list of supported platforms for LON-CAPA in response to requests from the user community.  Debian is no different, and I will look into reviving support for it.

A LON-CAPA repository at install.loncapa.org was created to provide packages for Debian 5 and 6 in 2011, and the release notes for LON-CAPA 2.10.0 and 2.10.1 (2011) listed both Ubuntu and Debian as supported distros.  By the time 2.11.0 was released, Debian ceased to be listed as a supported distro for LON-CAPA, as Canonical's Ubuntu LTS was preferred, and as far as I know no one in the use community had decided to use Debian.

As regards Rocky and Alma, their response to Red Hat's June 2023 announcement that *public* source releases would become restricted to CentOS Stream has differed.

AlmaLinux OS moved to CentOS Stream as source, so AlmaLinux is no longer a 1:1 clone of RHEL, but a binary compatible distribution.  As a result AlmaLinux can potentially develop and apply security patches/bug fixes ahead of RHEL.

Oracle, CIQ (the company behind Rocky Linux) and SUSE founded a trade association -- openELA.  Rocky Linux has claimed that they will continue to provide a 1:1 clone of RHEL despite the changes to RHEL source availability announced by Red Hat in 2023.  

Also, CIQ has announced the availability of a CIQ Bridge subscription (fees apply) to provide critical security patches for CentOS 7 through 06/2027.  SuSE also offers critical security packages (fees apply) for CentOS 7 with its SUSE Liberty Linux Lite product through 06/2028.

Red Hat itself offers critical security packages to its RHEL7 customers via  Extended Life Cycle Support (ELS) until 6/2028.

Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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Hi,

I notice Debian was once a platform supported, but very long ago (Debian 5.0)
In my opinion, Rocky and Alma will no longer be very close to Redhat as they used to be.
The developers have admitted in blogs that they will need to resort to reverse engineering things
which they will no longer be able to copy from Redhat's package management.  If one
is interested in quick turnaround on zero day Linux OS exploits and the benefits
of a mass of developers and users able to help with QA, then Debian provides a
better path going forward.  We could look at Ubuntu, but I'd rather reduce the number
of Linux distros we have in use on campus.  So this is a request that
perhaps Debian be considered another supported platform.

Regards,

--Donald Teed

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 9:56 AM loncapa_admin via LON-CAPA-admin <lon-capa-admin at mail.lon-capa.org<mailto:lon-capa-admin at mail.lon-capa.org>> wrote:
Thank you, Stuart,

Cheers,
Michael

> On Sep 15, 2023, at 20:49, Raeburn, Stuart via LON-CAPA-admin <lon-capa-admin at mail.lon-capa.org<mailto:lon-capa-admin at mail.lon-capa.org>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Yes, CentOS Stream 9 will be one of the Linux distros supported for LON-CAPA 2.12.0, and a testing repo has been in place at install.loncapa.org/msu/testing<http://install.loncapa.org/msu/testing> for a few months to facilitate release candidate testing for 2.12.0.  (The same is true for: RHEL/Oracle Linux/AlmaLinux/Rocky Linux 9, and Ubuntu 22 LTS).
>
> Stuart Raeburn
> LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2023 7:20 PM
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> Hello,
>
> With CentOS 7 and CentOS Stream 8 going EOL next year, are there any plans for providing a LON-CAPA repo for CentOS 9-Stream systems?
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
>
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