[LON-CAPA-admin] Images not showing up in student view for some questions

Michael Dugdale michael.dugdale at johnabbott.qc.ca
Wed Oct 30 08:42:16 EDT 2013


Thanks for sorting this out, Stuart.  I was really perplexed.

I honestly didn’t see that the <allow> tag was malformed… is it just the space between the “/“ and the “>” that’s causing it to be malformed?

Thank you again,

Cheers,
Michael
On Oct 29, 2013, at 10:30 PM, Stuart Raeburn <raeburn at msu.edu> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>>> Just checked again. I must have been mistaken. I do find that
>>> image. Same behaviour as you observed. I.e. Course coord can see
>>> the image in the problem but a student in a course cannot.
> 
> A Course Coordinator will be able to see a published image used in a
> problem, in cases where the the allow tag is malformed, because a CC
> is permitted to display any resources published with a system-wide
> right of use.
> 
> Students, however, will not see the image in cases where the allow tag
> is malformed.
> 
> That is what happened in this case in:
> /res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/SOL05_HSChem_19_Acids.problem
> 
> If the current allow tag in this problem:
> 
> <allow
> src="/res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/images/SOLHS05_Chemistry_19_MixingSolutionsTable.JPG"/
>> 
> 
> is replaced with a well-formed self-closing allow tag:
> 
> <allow
> src="/res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/images/SOLHS05_Chemistry_19_MixingSolutionsTable.JPG"
> />
> 
> then students will also be able to see the image.
> 
> It seems likely that other resources published by this particular
> author may also have similarly malformed, manually entered <allow> tags.
> 
> Anyway, I have updated the bug filed for this issue:
> http://bugs.loncapa.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6683
> 
> to request a change to LON-CAPA to include correction of malformed
> <allow> tags during publication of a resource.
> 
> I have also sent an e-mail to the resource author.
> 
> 
> Stuart Raeburn
> LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
> 
> 
> Quoting loncapa_admin <loncapa_admin at johnabbott.qc.ca>:
> 
>> Thanks again, Ray.
>> 
>> At least I know it's not some local phenomenon.  Always worried that
>> I've muffed a config file or two.
>> 
>> Digging through the black hole that is my admin notes, another
>> teacher had noticed a similar behaviour with some of her
>> self-authored problems.  Didn't make the connection at first,
>> thought this was either a problem with a poorly-written or published
>> problem.  Or something about our local config.  Had put that into
>> the "look at this over the Christmas break" pile.  Going to look at
>> the bugzilla to see if there's any related tickets.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
>> On 2013-10-18, at 10:37 AM, Raymond Batchelor <batchelo at sfu.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Just checked again. I must have been mistaken. I do find that
>>> image. Same behaviour as you observed. I.e. Course coord can see
>>> the image in the problem but a student in a course cannot.
>>> 
>>> Student sees large square blank space where image should be.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Michael Dugdale <michael.dugdale at johnabbott.qc.ca>
>>> To: list about administration and system updating
>>> <lon-capa-admin at mail.lon-capa.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 05:57:37 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-admin] Images not showing up
>>> in   student view    for     some    questions
>>> 
>>> Thanks again Mark,
>>> 
>>> We're running 1 library and 2 access servers --- the behaviour is
>>> repeatable on all of them. Our access servers are a little bit of
>>> an unusual configuration (PPC64) so that's the first thing I
>>> checked: it's happening on our stock RedHat 5 X86_64 library server
>>> too.
>>> 
>>> I don't think it's a replication problem: the file's on each of the
>>> servers, with modification dates that vary slightly (I'm
>>> interpreting that as an indicator of when the resource was
>>> replicated).
>>> 
>>> Hmm... interesting observation about the version #... hadn't
>>> noticed that. It does seem strange.
>>> 
>>> On 2013-10-17, at 11:11 PM, Mark Lucas <lucasm at ohio.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is it sometimes taking a while for things to get replicated over
>>>> to the server if it's
>>>> not already cached? How many different servers do your students
>>>> log in on, just one?
>>>> 
>>>> The only other strange thing I see is Version: -1 for the image.
>>>> Is that a stray hyphen or really minus one? What does version -1 mean?
>>>> 
>>>> Later,
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Michael Dugdale wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the observation ray.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's strange that you can't see it. We're not vcu so we're only
>>>>> seeing what's been published system-wide. As course coordinator,
>>>>> it's visible. Only student roles are being denied access.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Browsing to the image file, the meta-data page (copy/pasted
>>>>> below) has the line "Copyright/Distribution:       System wide - can be
>>>>> used for any courses system wide".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Strange that you're not able to see it out west.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Metadata
>>>>> 
>>>>> Untitled Resource
>>>>> /res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/images/SOLHS05_Chemistry_19_MixingSolutionsTable.JPG
>>>>> Version: -1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Title:
>>>>> Author(s): Josephus Ferguson
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Keyword(s):
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>> Lowest Grade Level:        Not specified
>>>>> Highest Grade Level:       Not specified
>>>>> Standards:
>>>>> MIME Type: <jpg.gif> JPEG Image Document
>>>>> Language:  Not set -
>>>>> Creation Date:     Mon Jun 2 09:37:25 pm 2008 (EDT)
>>>>> Last Revision Date:        Mon Jun 2 09:37:25 pm 2008 (EDT)
>>>>> Publisher/Owner:   Bartlett zzEdmonds [s2bdedmo:vcu]
>>>>> Copyright/Distribution:    System wide - can be used for any courses
>>>>> system wide
>>>>> Custom Distribution File:
>>>>> Source Available:  Closed - XML source is closed to everyone
>>>>> Source Custom Distribution File:
>>>>> Obsolete:
>>>>> Suggested Replacement for Obsolete File:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-10-17, at 9:08 PM, Raymond Batchelor <batchelo at sfu.ca> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, that particular image is not published system wide,
>>>>>> because it does not appear on this side of the continent.
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>> Perhaps the author (s2bdedmo:vcu) did not allow Sytemwide
>>>>>> Copyright/Diustribution or did not yet publish it. Better try to
>>>>>> contact them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Michael Dugdale" <michael.dugdale at johnabbott.qc.ca>
>>>>>> To: "list about administration and system updating"
>>>>>> <lon-capa-admin at mail.lon-capa.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 17 October, 2013 17:52:40
>>>>>> Subject: [LON-CAPA-admin] Images not showing up in student view
>>>>>> for some  questions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking for some help here. A chemistry teacher has reported a
>>>>>> number of cases where the images associated with a problem don't
>>>>>> show up for students. It loads fine for course coordinators.
>>>>>> It's just the images that are included in the problem that are
>>>>>> not showing up; the rest of the problem loads fine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trying to open just the image in a new tab (as student) gives
>>>>>> the following error:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----------------------------
>>>>>> LON-CAPA Access Control
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Access : Browse resources
>>>>>> Resource:
>>>>>> /res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/images/SOLHS05_Chemistry_19_MixingSolutionsTable.JPG
>>>>>> Action : Access Denied
>>>>>> Sorry ...
>>>>>> This action is currently not authorized.
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've looked in the file system, and the files are there,
>>>>>> owner/group are www:www with permissions -rw-r--r--
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As far as Apache logs go, I see many remarks of the form:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [Thu Oct 17 20:23:36 2013] [error] access to
>>>>>> /res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/images/SOLHS05_Chemistry_19_MixingSolutionsTable.JPG failed for 74.57.249.17, reason: Access Denied for michaeldugdale domain johnabbott access
>>>>>> bre
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trying to get a sense of what's going on, I checked the problem
>>>>>> file on the server's file system and it does, indeed have the line
>>>>>> <allow
>>>>>> src="/res/vcu/s2bdedmo/SOL05_HS_Chemistry/images/SOLHS05_Chemistry_19_MixingSolutionsTable.JPG"/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And I've double-checked that SELINUX is disabled...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm fresh out of ideas about where to look next. Does anyone
>>>>>> have any thoughts on where I should look?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael Dugdale
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael Dugdale
>>>>>> Co-chair (Scheduling)
>>>>>> Department of Physics
>>>>>> John Abbott College
>>>>>> 21,275 Lakeshore Road
>>>>>> Ste. Anne de Bellevue, Québec
>>>>>> H9X 3L9, Canada
>>>>>> (514) 457-6610 Ext. 5888
>>>>>> michael.dugdale at johnabbott.qc.ca
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Raymond J. Batchelor, PhD.
>>>>>> Department of Chemistry
>>>>>> Simon Fraser University
>>>>>> 
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>>>> Ohio University
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>>> 
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Michael Dugdale
Co-chair (Scheduling)
Department of Physics
John Abbott College
21,275 Lakeshore Road
Ste. Anne de Bellevue, Québec
H9X 3L9, Canada
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